1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,708 -Watch what happens here. -TRAVIS: Wow. 2 00:00:03,917 --> 00:00:05,708 ERIK: We have several objects 3 00:00:05,917 --> 00:00:08,375 moving in unison above the triangle. 4 00:00:09,875 --> 00:00:11,125 TRAVIS: What is that? 5 00:00:11,208 --> 00:00:12,833 KALEB: I just saw a flash right there. 6 00:00:13,042 --> 00:00:14,083 TRAVIS: I see it, I see it. UAP right there! 7 00:00:14,208 --> 00:00:16,833 -Yep. -TRAVIS: Look at that thing. 8 00:00:17,042 --> 00:00:18,292 KALEB: We just want to really see 9 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:21,083 how deep this anomaly is, by chance. 10 00:00:21,250 --> 00:00:22,500 Let's give it a go. 11 00:00:22,667 --> 00:00:23,708 JAN: This is what our target 12 00:00:23,875 --> 00:00:25,292 actually looks like. 13 00:00:25,458 --> 00:00:27,667 It looks a lot like you would think 14 00:00:27,792 --> 00:00:28,750 a debris field would be. 15 00:00:31,125 --> 00:00:34,667 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 16 00:00:34,833 --> 00:00:37,333 It is considered the epicenter 17 00:00:37,458 --> 00:00:41,958 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 18 00:00:42,125 --> 00:00:44,375 animal mutilations, 19 00:00:44,542 --> 00:00:46,625 bizarre UFO sightings 20 00:00:46,833 --> 00:00:52,000 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 21 00:00:52,167 --> 00:00:54,333 For 20 years, the federal government 22 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:57,958 tried to find answers and failed. 23 00:00:58,125 --> 00:01:02,000 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 24 00:01:02,167 --> 00:01:05,750 researchers and experts has taken over. 25 00:01:05,875 --> 00:01:10,042 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 26 00:01:12,375 --> 00:01:15,708 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 27 00:01:20,167 --> 00:01:22,208 KALEB: Morning, guys. 28 00:01:22,375 --> 00:01:24,042 -Hey, man. -We got Mike and Alex here with Mark Constructions. 29 00:01:24,208 --> 00:01:26,000 -Hey, guys. -Hey, how's it going? 30 00:01:26,167 --> 00:01:27,542 -Man. Hey, man. -THOMAS: Hey, Mike. 31 00:01:27,708 --> 00:01:29,375 -Hey, Thomas, how are you doing? -Good to see you again. 32 00:01:29,542 --> 00:01:31,167 TRAVIS: Thomas Winterton arranged for us to meet 33 00:01:31,292 --> 00:01:33,292 with a drilling team from Mark Construction 34 00:01:33,458 --> 00:01:35,333 to help us crack one of the biggest mysteries 35 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:38,042 we've ever encountered here on Skinwalker Ranch: 36 00:01:38,208 --> 00:01:40,750 just what the heck is inside the mesa? 37 00:01:40,917 --> 00:01:42,667 ERIK: So, guys, it sounds like 38 00:01:42,833 --> 00:01:44,375 you're bringing some capabilities that we've never 39 00:01:44,542 --> 00:01:47,375 had out here in terms of the horizontal drilling. 40 00:01:47,542 --> 00:01:49,000 Yeah, so we'll-we'll have the capabilities 41 00:01:49,167 --> 00:01:50,417 to about 60,000 pounds of force. 42 00:01:50,583 --> 00:01:52,083 -ERIK: 60,000 pounds? -TRAVIS: Wow. 43 00:01:52,292 --> 00:01:53,667 MIKE: With the machine that we're bringing, yeah. 44 00:01:53,875 --> 00:01:57,333 Now, if something stops that, that's pretty crazy. 45 00:01:57,542 --> 00:01:59,250 TRAVIS: In the past two years, 46 00:01:59,417 --> 00:02:01,500 we've conducted two separate drilling operations 47 00:02:01,708 --> 00:02:03,542 inside the mesa where we've encountered 48 00:02:03,708 --> 00:02:06,000 a 400-foot-long object 49 00:02:06,167 --> 00:02:08,625 that seems to be shaped like a dome. 50 00:02:08,833 --> 00:02:11,292 Neither of the previous drilling operations 51 00:02:11,458 --> 00:02:12,833 could penetrate this thing. 52 00:02:15,208 --> 00:02:17,208 I'm up against something pretty hard right now. 53 00:02:17,375 --> 00:02:19,833 TRAVIS: But what really stunned us was that 54 00:02:19,958 --> 00:02:23,333 small fragments of metal came out of the spoils pile. 55 00:02:23,542 --> 00:02:26,042 They were composed of similar kinds of materials 56 00:02:26,208 --> 00:02:28,583 that NASA and SpaceX use 57 00:02:28,750 --> 00:02:30,667 to protect spacecraft from the intense heat 58 00:02:30,833 --> 00:02:32,958 when they reenter the Earth's atmosphere. 59 00:02:33,083 --> 00:02:34,792 Oh, my. 60 00:02:34,917 --> 00:02:36,333 TRAVIS: And just one week ago, 61 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:38,583 ground-penetrating radar expert Jan Francke 62 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:41,333 rescanned the mesa, and he identified 63 00:02:41,542 --> 00:02:43,750 several more potentially metallic anomalies 64 00:02:43,917 --> 00:02:45,625 around the dome-shaped object 65 00:02:45,792 --> 00:02:49,375 that look a lot like a possible debris field. 66 00:02:49,542 --> 00:02:52,542 THOMAS: We've gotten some data that Erik's gonna share with you, 67 00:02:52,708 --> 00:02:55,167 and we wanted to get your thoughts on it 68 00:02:55,333 --> 00:02:57,875 and kind of get a game plan of how we would tackle this. 69 00:02:58,042 --> 00:03:00,542 TRAVIS: So now that Thomas has found a team 70 00:03:00,708 --> 00:03:02,667 with a much more powerful drill rig, 71 00:03:02,833 --> 00:03:05,625 we're gonna conduct a more strategic operation. 72 00:03:05,792 --> 00:03:07,875 Our plan is to collect as much data as possible 73 00:03:08,042 --> 00:03:09,417 about this dome-shaped object 74 00:03:09,583 --> 00:03:11,375 and the other anomalies around it. 75 00:03:11,542 --> 00:03:14,625 Then, perhaps we can find a way to excavate them 76 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:16,833 and figure out what they actually are. 77 00:03:18,208 --> 00:03:20,375 ERIK: Now, let's take a look at this. 78 00:03:22,375 --> 00:03:24,375 Our GPR expert has post-processed the data 79 00:03:24,542 --> 00:03:27,167 and given us, really, a three-dimensional 80 00:03:27,292 --> 00:03:29,458 -representation of whatever this is. -ALEX: Wow. 81 00:03:29,625 --> 00:03:32,125 ERIK: We expect to be able to punch through right up beside. 82 00:03:32,292 --> 00:03:33,750 We don't want to go into this thing. 83 00:03:33,958 --> 00:03:35,500 'Cause we don't know what it is. 84 00:03:35,708 --> 00:03:37,417 TRAVIS: What if it's something important or dangerous? 85 00:03:37,583 --> 00:03:40,083 ERIK: Yeah. You're gonna come in 86 00:03:40,208 --> 00:03:43,167 and hopefully maintain a-a distance 87 00:03:43,292 --> 00:03:46,333 from this feature to the east 88 00:03:46,542 --> 00:03:49,083 and, hopefully, to the west, so that we can then 89 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:51,833 bring instruments into that cased hole, 90 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,208 that, uh, borehole, and study it from both sides. 91 00:03:58,083 --> 00:04:00,833 We've decided, rather than to drill into the structure, 92 00:04:01,042 --> 00:04:03,667 we should create boreholes on both sides of the anomaly 93 00:04:03,833 --> 00:04:06,750 that will provide instrumentation access 94 00:04:06,917 --> 00:04:11,000 inside the mesa, very near to but not penetrating into 95 00:04:11,208 --> 00:04:12,833 the anomaly itself. 96 00:04:13,042 --> 00:04:16,083 I have in mind to insert active and passive instruments, 97 00:04:16,250 --> 00:04:18,375 some of which simply measure, others of which 98 00:04:18,542 --> 00:04:21,292 may even broadcast signals into the anomaly 99 00:04:21,417 --> 00:04:24,083 in order to study its response. 100 00:04:24,208 --> 00:04:26,250 This will give us an opportunity 101 00:04:26,417 --> 00:04:28,167 to better understand whether it is of natural 102 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:30,917 or possible technological origins. 103 00:04:31,042 --> 00:04:32,917 Do you mind if I draw on the screen? 104 00:04:33,042 --> 00:04:34,250 ERIK: Uh, s-- Go for it. 105 00:04:34,458 --> 00:04:35,500 -Yeah, I would love that. -Yeah, please do. 106 00:04:38,583 --> 00:04:42,875 All right, so, we've cleared out an area right here. 107 00:04:43,042 --> 00:04:46,333 The goal is to come up 108 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:49,667 and go as close to the dome as we can. 109 00:04:49,875 --> 00:04:53,208 It'd be really nice if we were able to bring 110 00:04:53,375 --> 00:04:57,292 a second drill hole up like that 111 00:04:57,375 --> 00:05:01,333 and allow these guys the ability to-to put equipment down 112 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:03,625 and almost X-ray, if you will. 113 00:05:03,792 --> 00:05:06,667 ERIK: You know, you're creating an asset for us 114 00:05:06,792 --> 00:05:10,833 to study what could be a very interesting thing 115 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,333 inside the mesa. 116 00:05:13,542 --> 00:05:14,500 THOMAS: Now we need your guys' thoughts 117 00:05:14,708 --> 00:05:17,667 on the logistics part of this. 118 00:05:17,875 --> 00:05:20,042 MIKE: We never know what we're getting into until we're on-site, 119 00:05:20,208 --> 00:05:22,250 'cause every-everything's underground, 120 00:05:22,417 --> 00:05:23,542 but it's definitely doable. 121 00:05:23,708 --> 00:05:25,500 One thing that we would need to know 122 00:05:25,667 --> 00:05:28,500 is-is the smallest-sized hole that would be able to obtain 123 00:05:28,667 --> 00:05:30,458 the equipment you guys are sending up there. 124 00:05:30,625 --> 00:05:32,167 ERIK: So, Mike, what are the increments? 125 00:05:32,333 --> 00:05:33,792 What are the size increments of that borehole? 126 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,667 So, our pilot hole will be a six-inch diameter hole... 127 00:05:36,833 --> 00:05:40,167 -Okay. -...um, and stepping up, uh, four inches at a time. 128 00:05:40,333 --> 00:05:43,292 So, we'll go six-inch, ten-inch, 14-inch, 18-inch. 129 00:05:43,458 --> 00:05:45,292 TRAVIS: Working up to 18 inches 130 00:05:45,458 --> 00:05:47,750 for each borehole would be perfect. 131 00:05:47,917 --> 00:05:49,458 So if you can do that on both sides, 132 00:05:49,625 --> 00:05:52,375 we can put a transmitter on one side 133 00:05:52,583 --> 00:05:55,542 and a receiver on the other and go up through there 134 00:05:55,708 --> 00:05:59,250 with, like, a robot or a, or something, and pull it... 135 00:05:59,458 --> 00:06:00,625 -ERIK: Pull it through. -...uh, up through there. 136 00:06:00,750 --> 00:06:02,625 -Okay. -TRAVIS: The big thing is, 137 00:06:02,750 --> 00:06:05,750 we don't want the pipe to be conductive, 138 00:06:05,875 --> 00:06:09,625 because we need to use radio waves, microwaves, 139 00:06:09,792 --> 00:06:11,500 gamma rays, everything we can think of 140 00:06:11,708 --> 00:06:13,667 to try and shoot through this thing and... 141 00:06:13,792 --> 00:06:16,167 -Send a signal through it? -...and-and figure out what it is. 142 00:06:16,292 --> 00:06:17,500 MIKE: Yeah, it's gonna be 143 00:06:17,708 --> 00:06:20,583 a concrete gel-based, um, casing that we put in. 144 00:06:20,750 --> 00:06:22,208 Okay. 145 00:06:22,375 --> 00:06:23,125 If everything goes according to plan, 146 00:06:23,208 --> 00:06:25,750 we will have two holes 147 00:06:25,917 --> 00:06:29,042 that would enable us to perform something akin to an X-ray, 148 00:06:29,208 --> 00:06:32,250 or a CAT scan, of that anomaly, 149 00:06:32,417 --> 00:06:33,833 and really give us an understanding 150 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,792 of whether we're dealing with a natural feature 151 00:06:35,917 --> 00:06:37,833 or something far more interesting. 152 00:06:37,917 --> 00:06:39,750 TRAVIS: We've been told all kinds of stories about 153 00:06:39,917 --> 00:06:42,417 UFOs flying into the mesa and out. 154 00:06:42,583 --> 00:06:45,500 The alien bases and, you know, crazy stuff. 155 00:06:45,667 --> 00:06:47,208 We don't have any evidence that any of that's real. 156 00:06:47,417 --> 00:06:49,750 But what we do know is there's something weird 157 00:06:49,917 --> 00:06:52,125 inside the mesa. 158 00:06:52,292 --> 00:06:54,167 Well, I'm anxious to get out there 159 00:06:54,333 --> 00:06:56,000 over the next few days and get set up 160 00:06:56,208 --> 00:06:59,167 and get your assessment of-of what can be done out there. 161 00:06:59,375 --> 00:07:00,917 -Absolutely. -Let's do it. -All right. 162 00:07:01,042 --> 00:07:03,500 TRAVIS: I'm looking forward to it, guys. 163 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:15,958 KALEB: Hey, Mike. 164 00:07:16,083 --> 00:07:18,000 -MIKE: How's it going? -BRYANT: Hey. Welcome back. 165 00:07:18,208 --> 00:07:19,833 -It's good to have you. -Yeah, it's good to be back. 166 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,792 Got your crew, looks like you've got 167 00:07:21,917 --> 00:07:23,708 -a little bit of equipment with you. -Yep. 168 00:07:23,875 --> 00:07:25,792 We've got our setup, we're ready to go. 169 00:07:25,958 --> 00:07:28,708 ♪ ♪ 170 00:07:28,875 --> 00:07:30,667 TRAVIS: Couple days after our meeting, Mike Seriani, 171 00:07:30,833 --> 00:07:34,583 Alex Swanson and their team from Mark Construction Drillers 172 00:07:34,750 --> 00:07:37,167 came back to get our operation started in the mesa. 173 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:39,833 MIKE: We'll get the drill unloaded 174 00:07:40,042 --> 00:07:41,417 and meet you out there. 175 00:07:42,375 --> 00:07:44,083 THOMAS: I'm really excited 176 00:07:44,208 --> 00:07:46,208 because we can finally be able to get a clear picture 177 00:07:46,375 --> 00:07:49,542 of what lies in and around the mesa. 178 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:51,833 In the past, 179 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,708 we've pulled metal out of the mesa, 180 00:07:53,875 --> 00:07:56,167 so the thing I'm looking forward to most 181 00:07:56,375 --> 00:07:58,875 is figuring out what is that metal from 182 00:07:59,042 --> 00:08:00,333 and how did it get there? 183 00:08:00,542 --> 00:08:03,125 Is there still a cavern or tunnel in there? 184 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:05,458 Is it gonna show this big dome? 185 00:08:05,625 --> 00:08:07,417 After years and years of hearing stories 186 00:08:07,583 --> 00:08:09,667 of things being inside the mesa, 187 00:08:09,792 --> 00:08:12,000 who knows what else we'll find in there? 188 00:08:12,208 --> 00:08:13,875 You're ready to rock, huh? 189 00:08:14,083 --> 00:08:16,500 -Yeah. -You gonna use the same drill hole 190 00:08:16,667 --> 00:08:19,417 from last year or are you gonna create a new one? 191 00:08:19,542 --> 00:08:20,958 No, we're gonna create our own. 192 00:08:21,125 --> 00:08:22,917 So, we'll go in just to the-the right 193 00:08:23,083 --> 00:08:25,417 of the existing one and make our own hole the whole way. 194 00:08:25,583 --> 00:08:26,792 THOMAS: Okay. 195 00:08:26,958 --> 00:08:28,542 -We'll get out of your way. -Yeah. 196 00:08:28,708 --> 00:08:30,167 You let us know if there's anything you need from us. 197 00:08:30,292 --> 00:08:31,125 Sounds good. 198 00:08:31,292 --> 00:08:32,958 TRAVIS: Awesome. 199 00:08:33,083 --> 00:08:35,667 The team will start the first of two holes 200 00:08:35,875 --> 00:08:38,417 across the road to the south of the mesa, 201 00:08:38,625 --> 00:08:41,167 and then drill a six-inch-diameter borehole 202 00:08:41,375 --> 00:08:44,375 that will track upwards and trace along the eastern side 203 00:08:44,542 --> 00:08:46,167 of the dome-shaped object 204 00:08:46,375 --> 00:08:49,000 until the bit breaks through at the top of the mesa. 205 00:08:49,208 --> 00:08:51,667 Once both six-inch holes are completed, 206 00:08:51,833 --> 00:08:54,292 the team will widen them to 18 inches 207 00:08:54,458 --> 00:08:57,250 and then coat them with a concrete-gel-based sealant 208 00:08:57,417 --> 00:08:59,250 that will allow us to insert imaging 209 00:08:59,417 --> 00:09:02,208 and energy-detecting devices to hopefully identify 210 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:05,250 what this dome-shaped object is. 211 00:09:07,875 --> 00:09:10,333 And in order to collect the drilling spoils, 212 00:09:10,458 --> 00:09:12,500 Thomas is digging a pit to catch them 213 00:09:12,625 --> 00:09:14,417 right at the base of the mesa 214 00:09:14,583 --> 00:09:16,375 so we can look for any more fragments 215 00:09:16,542 --> 00:09:18,333 of metal or other strange materials 216 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:20,583 that the drill may encounter. 217 00:09:21,542 --> 00:09:23,333 -Hey, Alex. -How's it going? 218 00:09:23,542 --> 00:09:25,500 -You got your beacon running? -Yes, sir. 219 00:09:25,625 --> 00:09:27,250 ERIK: Okay, and so, we're gonna monitor you 220 00:09:27,458 --> 00:09:29,083 from over here on the side. 221 00:09:29,292 --> 00:09:32,167 All right, well, it looks like we're ready to start poking in? 222 00:09:32,375 --> 00:09:33,333 -Yep. -All right. 223 00:09:33,542 --> 00:09:34,917 JARED: Fire in the hole, huh? 224 00:09:36,917 --> 00:09:38,833 ERIK: Just behind the drilling head 225 00:09:38,958 --> 00:09:42,167 on the end of that rod, we have a beacon. 226 00:09:42,333 --> 00:09:45,833 It is an electronic device that broadcasts a signal 227 00:09:46,042 --> 00:09:49,167 up through the mesa to the receiver 228 00:09:49,292 --> 00:09:53,417 and provides information about the elevation, 229 00:09:53,583 --> 00:09:55,708 the direction-- or inclination-- 230 00:09:55,875 --> 00:09:59,167 as well as the temperature of the drill head itself. 231 00:09:59,333 --> 00:10:02,792 This is very important to guide this otherwise blind operation 232 00:10:02,917 --> 00:10:05,083 taking place inside of the mesa. 233 00:10:06,292 --> 00:10:07,625 So, Travis, you're monitoring 234 00:10:07,792 --> 00:10:09,333 for that beacon signal on that drill head? 235 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:12,000 Oh, absolutely. 236 00:10:12,208 --> 00:10:13,833 -ERIK: Is that him? -TRAVIS: That's him right there. 237 00:10:14,042 --> 00:10:16,083 So, it's 3605. 238 00:10:16,250 --> 00:10:19,000 ERIK: The RF spectrum analyzer enables us to monitor 239 00:10:19,208 --> 00:10:21,333 the signal coming out of that beacon. 240 00:10:21,542 --> 00:10:23,208 We can pinpoint the exact frequency 241 00:10:23,375 --> 00:10:25,000 that it is broadcasting. 242 00:10:25,167 --> 00:10:28,333 They've got the bit to the right level 243 00:10:28,417 --> 00:10:29,667 and they're gonna-- about to punch 244 00:10:29,875 --> 00:10:31,750 into the main wall to go up into the mesa. 245 00:10:31,958 --> 00:10:33,167 ERIK: All right, well, this is where things start 246 00:10:33,375 --> 00:10:34,917 -to get interesting. -BRYANT: Yep, for sure. 247 00:10:40,750 --> 00:10:42,167 Oh, look over here. 248 00:10:42,333 --> 00:10:44,667 Holy crap. Look at this. 249 00:10:44,833 --> 00:10:46,333 We're detecting a different signal 250 00:10:46,542 --> 00:10:49,125 from the one coming from the drill beacon. 251 00:10:49,292 --> 00:10:51,000 Let's listen to it. 252 00:10:51,208 --> 00:10:53,167 ERIK: Okay, what frequency are you at on that one? 253 00:10:53,375 --> 00:10:56,500 -31 megahertz. -All right. 254 00:10:56,667 --> 00:10:58,833 (static) 255 00:10:59,042 --> 00:11:00,667 TRAVIS: It's coming from inside the mesa, 256 00:11:00,875 --> 00:11:02,583 right at the drill site. 257 00:11:02,750 --> 00:11:05,458 What in the hell is that? 258 00:11:05,583 --> 00:11:08,833 ♪ ♪ 259 00:11:16,625 --> 00:11:18,083 TRAVIS: What in the hell is that? 260 00:11:20,458 --> 00:11:22,708 It's coming from right at the drill site. 261 00:11:22,875 --> 00:11:25,000 And it's not the beacon. 262 00:11:25,125 --> 00:11:26,333 -What is that? -Yeah, you can see where the beacon is 263 00:11:26,542 --> 00:11:30,500 because it's that constant thing across it. 264 00:11:30,667 --> 00:11:32,833 TRAVIS: Just after the drilling operation got started, 265 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,167 almost immediately, we detected a strange signal 266 00:11:36,292 --> 00:11:38,125 at about 31 megahertz that 267 00:11:38,333 --> 00:11:41,292 our antenna showed us was coming from inside the mesa. 268 00:11:41,417 --> 00:11:44,000 I don't know what that is, 269 00:11:44,125 --> 00:11:46,625 'cause I've never seen a signal like that before. 270 00:11:46,750 --> 00:11:48,792 It definitely wasn't the drilling beacon 271 00:11:48,917 --> 00:11:50,750 that we were already tracking. 272 00:11:50,917 --> 00:11:53,458 So, could it possibly have been coming from 273 00:11:53,625 --> 00:11:55,583 the dome-shaped object itself? 274 00:11:55,750 --> 00:11:57,208 I don't understand any of this. 275 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,458 JARED: She's not wanting to move. 276 00:12:04,583 --> 00:12:05,833 ALEX: No? 277 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:12,875 JARED: Well, I don't know man. 278 00:12:13,042 --> 00:12:14,417 It's not moving very well. 279 00:12:16,417 --> 00:12:19,042 THOMAS: You can hear that drill's hitting something hard. 280 00:12:20,542 --> 00:12:21,792 It keeps going up. 281 00:12:21,958 --> 00:12:25,500 So, I've climbed 13% from back there. 282 00:12:25,625 --> 00:12:28,167 THOMAS: We were only drilling for a short period of time 283 00:12:28,375 --> 00:12:30,500 and already the bit is being pushed up 284 00:12:30,625 --> 00:12:32,917 too steep inside the mesa. 285 00:12:33,083 --> 00:12:35,000 Which means, unfortunately, 286 00:12:35,125 --> 00:12:37,375 they're not able to steer this bit around 287 00:12:37,542 --> 00:12:38,958 like they would like to, 288 00:12:39,083 --> 00:12:41,167 just like we've seen in other exercises 289 00:12:41,333 --> 00:12:43,500 drilling into this mesa in the past. 290 00:12:43,667 --> 00:12:46,167 ALEX (on walkie): She doesn't want to go down, huh? 291 00:12:46,375 --> 00:12:49,125 Nah, no. She don't want to go down at all. 292 00:12:51,542 --> 00:12:53,875 I mean, we're scraping on something. 293 00:12:54,042 --> 00:12:55,500 Just climbing like crazy. 294 00:12:55,708 --> 00:12:57,875 (signal static) 295 00:12:58,042 --> 00:12:59,958 Every time I try and tune into it, 296 00:13:00,125 --> 00:13:04,000 the signal coming from the mesa spreads around. 297 00:13:04,208 --> 00:13:06,875 That sounds just like what we heard in the east field. 298 00:13:07,042 --> 00:13:09,417 TRAVIS: That's exactly right. 299 00:13:09,583 --> 00:13:10,958 A few weeks ago, 300 00:13:11,167 --> 00:13:12,792 during an experiment about a half a mile away 301 00:13:12,958 --> 00:13:14,292 in the east field canyon... 302 00:13:14,458 --> 00:13:16,667 Oh. What was that? 303 00:13:16,875 --> 00:13:19,250 ...we detected a similar radio signal 304 00:13:19,375 --> 00:13:22,833 that sounded to me like a possible communication signal. 305 00:13:23,042 --> 00:13:24,833 I think it's two things talking to each other. 306 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,000 And it was also coming from inside the mesa. 307 00:13:29,208 --> 00:13:32,833 Right where we've seen UAPs actually entering the rock face 308 00:13:33,042 --> 00:13:35,917 and then reemerging on the other side near the triangle. 309 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:40,875 I've never seen a signal like that for any reason. 310 00:13:41,042 --> 00:13:44,167 Was this the same kind of signal? 311 00:13:44,292 --> 00:13:48,042 If so, what might that indicate about the dome-shaped object? 312 00:13:48,250 --> 00:13:50,833 All we could hope was that this drilling operation 313 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,792 would help us figure it out. 314 00:13:54,542 --> 00:13:56,583 THOMAS: It's really just basically right below 315 00:13:56,750 --> 00:13:58,875 -the rock you're standing on? -ALEX: Yeah. 316 00:14:01,583 --> 00:14:03,125 So, you want me to pull this back? 317 00:14:05,042 --> 00:14:06,708 Hey, Erik. You got a copy? 318 00:14:06,875 --> 00:14:08,958 Yeah, go ahead, Thomas. 319 00:14:09,125 --> 00:14:11,000 We've encountered some, uh, circumstances 320 00:14:11,083 --> 00:14:13,042 over here with this drill. 321 00:14:13,208 --> 00:14:16,000 Uh, we'd like to come down and visit with you about it. 322 00:14:16,208 --> 00:14:17,375 Copy you. 323 00:14:17,542 --> 00:14:20,167 Well, that sounds foreboding. 324 00:14:20,333 --> 00:14:22,083 TRAVIS: We were all anxious to find out 325 00:14:22,250 --> 00:14:24,042 what the problem was with the drill, 326 00:14:24,208 --> 00:14:26,917 especially since it happened right after we detected 327 00:14:27,042 --> 00:14:29,833 that strange signal from inside the mesa. 328 00:14:31,667 --> 00:14:34,125 -So, what is up, guys? -THOMAS: They haven't been achieving 329 00:14:34,292 --> 00:14:36,042 the direction that they want. 330 00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:37,083 Oh, wow. 331 00:14:37,250 --> 00:14:39,458 We were about nine-foot-deep 332 00:14:39,625 --> 00:14:41,208 and got another two rods in. 333 00:14:41,375 --> 00:14:43,333 Um, we're still trying to push it down, 334 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:44,750 but whatever it is, 335 00:14:44,958 --> 00:14:47,167 we're just scraping on it and chasing it up. 336 00:14:47,292 --> 00:14:49,208 TRAVIS: Wait, so you're-you're saying 337 00:14:49,375 --> 00:14:51,250 you're hitting something, and it's pushing the bit up? 338 00:14:51,417 --> 00:14:54,000 -ALEX: Yeah. -THOMAS: At the rate he's going, 339 00:14:54,083 --> 00:14:56,208 he'll pop out before he's even halfway up the hill. 340 00:14:56,375 --> 00:14:59,000 Oh, really? How deep were you when you started hitting this? 341 00:14:59,167 --> 00:15:02,042 -Uh, probably about 40-feet. -Wow. 342 00:15:02,208 --> 00:15:03,542 TRAVIS: Well, that's just inside the mesa. 343 00:15:03,708 --> 00:15:04,833 ERIK: So, what kind of force 344 00:15:05,042 --> 00:15:07,167 or pressure are you guys at right now? 345 00:15:07,375 --> 00:15:09,167 Anywhere between 12,000 and 14,000 pounds. 346 00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:11,000 Holy crap. 347 00:15:11,208 --> 00:15:13,500 So, what in the hell have we hit there? 348 00:15:13,625 --> 00:15:16,500 Something hard that's just keeping us right on top of it. 349 00:15:16,583 --> 00:15:19,667 We're not able to punch into it, we're just scraping up it. 350 00:15:19,833 --> 00:15:22,208 When have we heard that before? 351 00:15:22,375 --> 00:15:24,333 TRAVIS: Hearing from Alex that the drill bit was 352 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:26,583 hitting something it couldn't penetrate 353 00:15:26,708 --> 00:15:28,667 and was just scraping alongside it 354 00:15:28,875 --> 00:15:31,208 was like déjà vu all over again. 355 00:15:31,375 --> 00:15:33,458 AARON: We're just hitting something 356 00:15:33,583 --> 00:15:34,750 really, really hard. 357 00:15:34,917 --> 00:15:36,875 And we're at 8,000 pounds of push. 358 00:15:38,125 --> 00:15:39,667 THOMAS: Guys, you got a copy? 359 00:15:39,833 --> 00:15:41,167 Go ahead, Thomas. We hear you. 360 00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:44,042 It's just pushing up higher and higher. 361 00:15:44,208 --> 00:15:46,833 TRAVIS: Because that's exactly what happened 362 00:15:46,958 --> 00:15:49,125 to both of the previous drill rigs 363 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:51,500 that attempted to break through the dome-shaped object. 364 00:15:51,667 --> 00:15:54,833 And this rig was applying twice as much pressure. 365 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,583 But what's really strange is 366 00:15:56,750 --> 00:15:59,625 that they shouldn't have reached the dome-shaped object yet. 367 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:01,250 According to our GPR data, 368 00:16:01,417 --> 00:16:04,208 it's at least 100 feet deeper inside the mesa. 369 00:16:04,375 --> 00:16:06,750 So, does that mean the drill hit one of 370 00:16:06,917 --> 00:16:08,708 the other objects detected around it? 371 00:16:08,917 --> 00:16:12,625 So, are you thinking you're gonna have to 372 00:16:12,833 --> 00:16:14,125 come all the way out with it 373 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,833 and then move left or right or something? 374 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,958 We're probably gonna pull it all the way out, 375 00:16:17,125 --> 00:16:18,333 back the drill up a little bit, 376 00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:20,583 and try and get a little bit deeper. 377 00:16:20,750 --> 00:16:22,667 -Get under whatever that is? -Maybe get under whatever it is, yeah. 378 00:16:22,792 --> 00:16:25,792 Okay, so we'll suck out the spoils pit. 379 00:16:25,875 --> 00:16:27,000 And then back the drill out, 380 00:16:27,167 --> 00:16:29,167 -right? -Yeah. Yes, sir. -Okay. 381 00:16:29,375 --> 00:16:31,167 TRAVIS: Well, let's go check the spoils and see what's in them. 382 00:16:31,375 --> 00:16:33,292 -Yep, absolutely. -ERIK: Thank you. -TRAVIS: Let's go. 383 00:16:33,458 --> 00:16:35,500 THOMAS: After all the metal flakes that we found 384 00:16:35,625 --> 00:16:37,000 a couple of years ago, 385 00:16:37,167 --> 00:16:39,000 I'm really eager to look at this spoils pile 386 00:16:39,208 --> 00:16:41,875 and see if there's anything indicating that we're drilling 387 00:16:42,083 --> 00:16:45,083 into the same metallic object that we did from two years ago. 388 00:16:45,250 --> 00:16:46,875 ♪ ♪ 389 00:16:47,042 --> 00:16:49,125 That's probably perfect. 390 00:16:49,250 --> 00:16:52,250 All right, guys. Go ahead and crack it open. 391 00:16:57,458 --> 00:17:00,958 TRAVIS: All right, so now we're down to the sludgy stuff. 392 00:17:04,958 --> 00:17:06,250 JARED: With the bit we have on there now, 393 00:17:06,458 --> 00:17:08,500 it grinds the material down to smaller pieces. 394 00:17:08,667 --> 00:17:10,292 That's good to know. 395 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:13,583 There might be metallic flakes in there instead of chunks. 396 00:17:15,375 --> 00:17:17,333 BRYANT: You seeing anything like the sort? 397 00:17:17,500 --> 00:17:19,417 TRAVIS: No, I don't think we are. 398 00:17:26,833 --> 00:17:28,167 -You got something? -Might be. 399 00:17:28,375 --> 00:17:30,792 We may have found something here, hang on. 400 00:17:30,958 --> 00:17:33,083 Oh... maybe. 401 00:17:35,167 --> 00:17:36,292 This does look like metal. 402 00:17:38,167 --> 00:17:40,042 We are examining the contents 403 00:17:40,208 --> 00:17:41,667 of the spoils pit from the drilling operation. 404 00:17:41,792 --> 00:17:44,042 One thing does stand out 405 00:17:44,208 --> 00:17:45,875 and that's a small metallic fragment 406 00:17:46,042 --> 00:17:47,792 like we saw about two years ago. 407 00:17:47,917 --> 00:17:50,958 Could this be some part of what we've been describing 408 00:17:51,125 --> 00:17:53,958 as a debris field inside the mesa? 409 00:17:54,125 --> 00:17:57,333 All right, this sample is collected. 410 00:17:57,542 --> 00:17:59,042 And that's what makes it interesting to me. 411 00:17:59,250 --> 00:18:01,917 -It's an eventful day. -THOMAS: I know that 412 00:18:02,125 --> 00:18:03,167 we're gonna be starting over again. 413 00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:05,417 But we got data out of it, 414 00:18:05,542 --> 00:18:08,667 so, I guess we call it a day and-and we come back. 415 00:18:08,833 --> 00:18:10,667 -Sounds good. -Sounds good. -Thank you, guys. 416 00:18:10,833 --> 00:18:12,333 Absolutely. Thank you, guys. 417 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,667 TRAVIS: Looks like Nu-Salt is here. 418 00:18:23,292 --> 00:18:25,125 Hey, Tim, how you doing, man? Good to see you. 419 00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:27,375 -Hey. How are you? -Hey, man, good to see you. 420 00:18:27,542 --> 00:18:29,833 TRAVIS: Our day of drilling at the mesa may have ended, 421 00:18:29,958 --> 00:18:32,833 but as sundown was approaching, we regrouped at the triangle 422 00:18:32,958 --> 00:18:34,333 for a nighttime experiment 423 00:18:34,542 --> 00:18:36,125 with our friends from Nu-Salt Laser 424 00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:38,833 and technologist Pete Kelsey. 425 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,958 Well, it's good to have you back out to the ranch, Tim. 426 00:18:41,125 --> 00:18:44,458 There's something very interesting happening 427 00:18:44,542 --> 00:18:46,208 in the space right above the triangle. 428 00:18:46,375 --> 00:18:48,083 -Okay. -ERIK: I understand you're bringing 429 00:18:48,250 --> 00:18:50,667 more wattage this time than the last time 430 00:18:50,875 --> 00:18:52,042 you were out here with us. 431 00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:53,333 TIM: So, this year we actually have 432 00:18:53,417 --> 00:18:55,167 eight total Laser Space Cannons, 433 00:18:55,333 --> 00:18:58,208 and they're higher power, so I would expect 434 00:18:58,333 --> 00:19:00,208 we are definitely gonna see something. 435 00:19:00,375 --> 00:19:02,875 I love the idea of getting more photons into the sky, 436 00:19:03,042 --> 00:19:05,917 'cause, you know, that'll help us to paint that space 437 00:19:06,083 --> 00:19:07,917 and see if in fact we get a repeat 438 00:19:08,042 --> 00:19:10,500 of the things we've seen before right over this triangle. 439 00:19:10,667 --> 00:19:12,833 TRAVIS: Just like in past years, 440 00:19:13,042 --> 00:19:16,458 we've recently experienced GPS errors, energy spikes, 441 00:19:16,625 --> 00:19:20,000 and seen several UAPs that were hundreds of feet 442 00:19:20,167 --> 00:19:21,792 in the sky above the triangle. 443 00:19:21,958 --> 00:19:23,292 Looks like wings. 444 00:19:23,458 --> 00:19:26,583 Not like bird wings-- look like airplane wings. 445 00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:28,583 And other UAPs 446 00:19:28,750 --> 00:19:32,125 that literally disappeared about 30 feet high, 447 00:19:32,292 --> 00:19:35,500 right about where we captured high-speed camera images 448 00:19:35,708 --> 00:19:36,917 of a blob-like anomaly 449 00:19:37,083 --> 00:19:39,208 back in 2022. 450 00:19:39,875 --> 00:19:41,167 Specifically, Tim, 451 00:19:41,375 --> 00:19:43,792 tonight, what we want to do is 452 00:19:43,958 --> 00:19:47,167 surround the anomalous area above the triangle 453 00:19:47,375 --> 00:19:48,958 with all of the lasers. 454 00:19:49,125 --> 00:19:51,417 That way, if something does pass through, 455 00:19:51,625 --> 00:19:52,917 it should hit one of those lasers. 456 00:19:53,042 --> 00:19:55,583 And then, we want to, uh, 457 00:19:55,708 --> 00:19:58,875 pass a laser beam up through the anomaly and hit a screen. 458 00:20:00,375 --> 00:20:02,167 Tonight, once the sun goes down, 459 00:20:02,375 --> 00:20:04,625 the Nu-Salt team is going to set up 460 00:20:04,792 --> 00:20:06,958 several high-powered Laser Space Cannons 461 00:20:07,125 --> 00:20:08,583 that will shoot beams of laser light 462 00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:11,208 from the center of the triangle all the way up 463 00:20:11,375 --> 00:20:13,167 into outer space. 464 00:20:13,375 --> 00:20:15,000 If we see any breaks in the beams, 465 00:20:15,208 --> 00:20:16,500 it might help us pinpoint 466 00:20:16,708 --> 00:20:18,833 whatever might be responsible for the anomalies 467 00:20:19,042 --> 00:20:20,500 we've seen and detected 468 00:20:20,708 --> 00:20:23,083 between the ground and high altitudes. 469 00:20:23,250 --> 00:20:27,042 And they'll also aim an additional Laser Cannon 470 00:20:27,208 --> 00:20:29,500 at a 12-by-8-foot white screen 471 00:20:29,708 --> 00:20:32,208 that Thomas will position at the 31-foot mark, 472 00:20:32,375 --> 00:20:33,833 using a lift. 473 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,708 Then I'll use a device known as a spectrometer 474 00:20:36,875 --> 00:20:40,292 to measure any variations in the laser beams' color spectrum, 475 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,625 which could indicate more evidence 476 00:20:42,792 --> 00:20:44,458 of the blob anomaly. 477 00:20:44,583 --> 00:20:46,667 So we're gonna look all across the spectrum 478 00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:49,875 with all of our sensors, and hopefully we'll-we'll see 479 00:20:50,042 --> 00:20:51,708 something in that spot again. 480 00:20:51,875 --> 00:20:54,333 ERIK: I know we've got a lot of equipment to put out, 481 00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:56,250 -so I say we get to it. -Great. 482 00:20:56,417 --> 00:20:58,500 TRAVIS: All right, let's do it. Let's go. 483 00:20:58,708 --> 00:21:01,542 Also, to look out for anything strange 484 00:21:01,708 --> 00:21:05,125 that we won't be able to see with the naked eye, 485 00:21:05,292 --> 00:21:07,333 Pete Kelsey and Jim Royston will be scanning 486 00:21:07,542 --> 00:21:10,792 the entire triangle area with aerial, infrared lidar 487 00:21:10,958 --> 00:21:12,417 and thermal devices. 488 00:21:12,625 --> 00:21:15,125 And all during the experiment, we're also setting up 489 00:21:15,292 --> 00:21:17,208 multiple cameras that will be programed 490 00:21:17,417 --> 00:21:19,167 to take long exposure photos 491 00:21:19,333 --> 00:21:21,333 every few seconds of the triangle, 492 00:21:21,542 --> 00:21:24,333 so if anything passes through those laser beams, 493 00:21:24,542 --> 00:21:26,333 hopefully we'll capture images of it. 494 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,500 THOMAS: Good. We can have a new scan. 495 00:21:28,667 --> 00:21:30,292 TRAVIS: And, of course, we'll be launching rockets 496 00:21:30,458 --> 00:21:33,375 because a lot of the really bizarre phenomena 497 00:21:33,542 --> 00:21:36,208 that we've been seeing during our investigation 498 00:21:36,375 --> 00:21:38,167 here on Skinwalker Ranch have occurred 499 00:21:38,333 --> 00:21:40,375 just after we launched rockets that were equipped 500 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:43,583 with GPS and energy-detecting devices. 501 00:21:45,042 --> 00:21:47,167 Coming towards ya. 502 00:21:47,375 --> 00:21:49,333 ERIK: Our objective with the one laser 503 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:51,292 that is directed at the target 504 00:21:51,458 --> 00:21:53,417 is to determine whether the light will be scattered, 505 00:21:53,625 --> 00:21:55,292 diverted, or perhaps absorbed 506 00:21:55,458 --> 00:21:58,000 in some way that requires the presence 507 00:21:58,208 --> 00:22:00,333 of some exotic physical phenomenon. 508 00:22:00,542 --> 00:22:01,833 -Oh, so it's that way. -Towards the... 509 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,583 Yeah. Okay. I got it. 510 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:05,417 ERIK: Given the fact that we've recorded 511 00:22:05,583 --> 00:22:08,167 what we've termed "the blob" 512 00:22:08,375 --> 00:22:10,667 at about 30 to 40 feet above the triangle, 513 00:22:10,875 --> 00:22:12,458 we won't be surprised 514 00:22:12,625 --> 00:22:14,292 if we see something unusual happen 515 00:22:14,458 --> 00:22:15,458 with that laser light. 516 00:22:15,625 --> 00:22:16,833 It wouldn't be the first time. 517 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,125 Okay. Very good. 518 00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:19,792 That's probably it. 519 00:22:22,542 --> 00:22:24,917 ♪ ♪ 520 00:22:30,167 --> 00:22:33,500 Yeah, when you come up with it, it'll be at low power, Chris. 521 00:22:34,542 --> 00:22:35,917 TRAVIS: Tim, you guys about ready? 522 00:22:36,083 --> 00:22:37,333 TIM: Yeah, we're ready to go, Travis. 523 00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:38,833 Hey, hey. What is-- Look right here. 524 00:22:39,042 --> 00:22:39,833 What is this? 525 00:22:41,875 --> 00:22:43,000 KALEB: What is that, right there, right there? 526 00:22:43,167 --> 00:22:44,250 TRAVIS: I don't see lights on it. 527 00:22:44,458 --> 00:22:46,083 KALEB: I'm not seeing lights, either. 528 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:48,667 TRAVIS: I don't see aviation lights at all. 529 00:22:48,875 --> 00:22:50,875 KALEB: Yeah, I don't see any strobe. 530 00:22:53,583 --> 00:22:55,542 TRAVIS: I think that could be a UAP. 531 00:22:58,292 --> 00:23:01,167 Yeah, I can barely still see it moving 532 00:23:01,333 --> 00:23:03,458 to the north and west. 533 00:23:06,792 --> 00:23:07,833 It's gone. 534 00:23:09,875 --> 00:23:11,333 TRAVIS: We've seen a lot of UAPs in the sky 535 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:12,958 during the last few years, 536 00:23:13,083 --> 00:23:16,042 but as an optical scientist who's worked with NASA 537 00:23:16,208 --> 00:23:18,500 and the Department of Defense on space technology 538 00:23:18,708 --> 00:23:20,667 for more than three decades now, 539 00:23:20,833 --> 00:23:22,833 this one looked bigger and brighter than anything 540 00:23:23,042 --> 00:23:25,167 we've ever documented on Skinwalker Ranch. 541 00:23:25,333 --> 00:23:27,542 It was even maneuvering like a craft 542 00:23:27,708 --> 00:23:31,125 for several seconds there, but then it just disappeared. 543 00:23:33,542 --> 00:23:34,833 All right. Well, let's get going. 544 00:23:35,042 --> 00:23:36,667 Okay, I'm gonna go lift the screen up. 545 00:23:36,833 --> 00:23:38,792 TIM: We're all hooked up and ready to go 546 00:23:38,958 --> 00:23:40,500 and we'll energize it 547 00:23:40,667 --> 00:23:42,375 when the backstop is up in the air. 548 00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:44,500 TRAVIS: All I knew for sure was 549 00:23:44,667 --> 00:23:46,458 that we needed to start our laser, lidar, 550 00:23:46,625 --> 00:23:49,125 and rocket experiment at the triangle right away 551 00:23:49,292 --> 00:23:51,000 to see if it reappears 552 00:23:51,208 --> 00:23:54,417 or, given all the legends we've heard about portals out here, 553 00:23:54,583 --> 00:23:57,083 detect something to explain why it vanished. 554 00:23:57,208 --> 00:23:59,333 We've got-- Pete's ready over here, 555 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,250 OmniTeq's ready. Where are you gonna be? 556 00:24:01,375 --> 00:24:02,750 ERIK: I've got to get back over to the command center 557 00:24:02,917 --> 00:24:04,000 where I've got all the monitoring screens up 558 00:24:04,167 --> 00:24:05,958 -right now. -TRAVIS: Great. 559 00:24:06,042 --> 00:24:07,458 Well, I say we get to it. 560 00:24:07,625 --> 00:24:09,083 ERIK: All right. 561 00:24:09,292 --> 00:24:10,667 TRAVIS: Who knows what might happen next? 562 00:24:15,333 --> 00:24:16,833 TRAVIS: Okay, guys, be advised, 563 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,125 big laser's coming on. 564 00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:20,208 TIM (over walkie): Hey, Chris. 565 00:24:20,375 --> 00:24:21,500 On the laser, 566 00:24:21,583 --> 00:24:22,500 go ahead and slowly 567 00:24:22,708 --> 00:24:23,833 bring up the power. 568 00:24:24,042 --> 00:24:25,417 Copy that. 569 00:24:26,375 --> 00:24:28,542 ♪ ♪ 570 00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:31,917 TRAVIS: Yeah, that's bright. Wow, that's bright. 571 00:24:34,458 --> 00:24:36,083 Look at that. Look at that right there. 572 00:24:37,833 --> 00:24:39,667 Before the Nu-Salt team turned on 573 00:24:39,875 --> 00:24:41,500 the seven vertical laser cannons 574 00:24:41,708 --> 00:24:43,833 that were positioned around the triangle, 575 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000 I wanted to test the one we had aimed at the whiteboard 576 00:24:47,167 --> 00:24:48,833 positioned 31 feet high. 577 00:24:49,875 --> 00:24:52,083 That's right where we saw the blob-like anomaly 578 00:24:52,208 --> 00:24:53,542 that may have caused 579 00:24:53,708 --> 00:24:55,833 a rocket to explode back in 2022. 580 00:24:56,958 --> 00:24:58,833 KALEB: It's like staring at the sun. 581 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,625 TRAVIS: While the laser canon fired its beam-- 582 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:04,292 which has a specific spectrum of colors-- 583 00:25:04,458 --> 00:25:06,333 into the 31-foot zone, 584 00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:08,000 I watched my spectrometer 585 00:25:08,208 --> 00:25:09,917 for any changes in those colors 586 00:25:10,083 --> 00:25:11,625 which might indicate something strange 587 00:25:11,792 --> 00:25:13,875 was in the airspace. 588 00:25:14,042 --> 00:25:16,792 So you can see the red, green and the blue. 589 00:25:18,042 --> 00:25:19,417 Look at that. 590 00:25:19,583 --> 00:25:22,250 Suddenly, it's gotten brighter in the green 591 00:25:22,417 --> 00:25:23,958 and dropped off in the blue. 592 00:25:25,125 --> 00:25:26,333 Why would it be doing that? 593 00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:28,667 This laser is programmed to emit light 594 00:25:28,875 --> 00:25:31,583 with no variation in its brightness or color. 595 00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:35,333 So when I saw the green light was suddenly getting brighter 596 00:25:35,542 --> 00:25:37,500 while the blue light started to fade, 597 00:25:37,667 --> 00:25:40,167 and then the colors actually changed slightly, 598 00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:43,958 that meant something strange at about 31 feet was causing it. 599 00:25:44,167 --> 00:25:46,625 So it was time for us to use all of our tools 600 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:48,583 to identify just what it was. 601 00:25:48,708 --> 00:25:50,833 I think we're at a point now 602 00:25:50,958 --> 00:25:53,333 where we can start getting the rest of the lasers 603 00:25:53,458 --> 00:25:54,625 ready to go. 604 00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:56,958 -Okay. -TRAVIS: All right, Tim. 605 00:25:57,083 --> 00:26:00,375 Uh, we're ready to start getting the big lasers going. 606 00:26:00,542 --> 00:26:01,750 TIM (over walkie): All right, Travis. 607 00:26:01,917 --> 00:26:05,042 Let's turn on the lasers, creating the circle. 608 00:26:05,167 --> 00:26:06,292 Copy that. 609 00:26:10,167 --> 00:26:11,333 All right. Lasers are up. 610 00:26:11,542 --> 00:26:13,917 Lasers are up, guys. 611 00:26:15,250 --> 00:26:17,042 Travis, you copy? 612 00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:18,958 Go ahead, Erik. 613 00:26:19,083 --> 00:26:20,708 ERIK: I'd like to know what you're seeing 614 00:26:20,833 --> 00:26:24,042 around 1.6 gigahertz over there on your antennas. 615 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:28,625 'Cause I do show a source right behind Homestead Two. 616 00:26:29,875 --> 00:26:31,667 All right, me and Dragon are going to head back now 617 00:26:31,875 --> 00:26:33,083 and check that, Erik. 618 00:26:33,250 --> 00:26:34,667 Copy you. 619 00:26:34,833 --> 00:26:37,292 We have a system with five antennas 620 00:26:37,458 --> 00:26:40,792 that we've deployed around the ranch to monitor activity. 621 00:26:40,958 --> 00:26:44,750 Now, I'm seeing a 1.6 gigahertz signal 622 00:26:44,917 --> 00:26:46,417 out in the west near Homestead Two 623 00:26:46,542 --> 00:26:49,708 just as we're performing this experiment. 624 00:26:50,833 --> 00:26:52,833 This is in fact a location where we've seen 625 00:26:52,958 --> 00:26:55,292 unusual things in the past. 626 00:26:55,417 --> 00:26:56,667 Now, there's nothing in that space 627 00:26:56,833 --> 00:26:58,125 that should account for that. 628 00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:01,000 Okay, I need to call Erik and tell him he's right. 629 00:27:01,167 --> 00:27:04,042 We're getting a signal at 1.6 gigahertz 630 00:27:04,208 --> 00:27:05,833 pointed at Homestead Two. 631 00:27:07,208 --> 00:27:09,583 Hey, Erik, do you copy? 632 00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:12,917 Yeah, Travis, go ahead. 633 00:27:14,292 --> 00:27:15,833 You are correct. 634 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,958 I'm not getting that signal on any of my antennas 635 00:27:18,125 --> 00:27:21,250 except for the one pointed out behind Homestead Two. 636 00:27:21,417 --> 00:27:23,708 There is something coming from that direction. 637 00:27:25,083 --> 00:27:27,000 Travis, that is really interesting. 638 00:27:27,083 --> 00:27:28,500 I'm gonna keep an eye on that. 639 00:27:28,708 --> 00:27:29,750 Just keep me advised as to whether you see 640 00:27:29,917 --> 00:27:32,000 any changes on that. 641 00:27:33,042 --> 00:27:34,833 TRAVIS: We still have no idea what causes 642 00:27:34,958 --> 00:27:37,292 these 1.6 gigahertz signals, 643 00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:39,625 but we've been detecting them on our spectrum analyzers 644 00:27:39,792 --> 00:27:41,542 for the past few years, 645 00:27:41,708 --> 00:27:43,542 and it's usually right around the time 646 00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:45,167 when we see UAPs 647 00:27:45,375 --> 00:27:47,833 or experience other strange things at the triangle. 648 00:27:47,958 --> 00:27:51,917 So, since this 1.6 gigahertz signal showed up 649 00:27:52,125 --> 00:27:54,375 just after we had detected something strange 650 00:27:54,542 --> 00:27:56,042 with the lasers above the triangle, 651 00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:59,250 we wanted to kick our experiment into high gear 652 00:27:59,417 --> 00:28:00,958 to see what would happen next. 653 00:28:01,917 --> 00:28:04,167 All right, next step. 654 00:28:04,333 --> 00:28:05,833 Uh, Jim, you're gonna run lidar, right? 655 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,500 -Correct. -TRAVIS: So, Pete, 656 00:28:07,667 --> 00:28:09,583 -I'd rather you run thermal. -All right, check. 657 00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:11,417 TRAVIS: All right, Jim, if you want to go ahead and get in the air. 658 00:28:11,583 --> 00:28:13,958 JIM: Yeah, copy that. All righty. 659 00:28:14,125 --> 00:28:16,000 (buzzing) 660 00:28:17,083 --> 00:28:18,667 Here we go. 661 00:28:19,542 --> 00:28:20,875 Pete's in the air. 662 00:28:21,042 --> 00:28:23,500 JIM: Pete, I'm at 133 feet. 663 00:28:23,708 --> 00:28:25,792 I'm coming to a hundred feet, Jim. 664 00:28:26,917 --> 00:28:29,333 The lidar and thermal drones are up in the air. 665 00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:31,750 Copy you, Travis. 666 00:28:34,375 --> 00:28:37,083 -Try to go hot on the battery. -TRAVIS: All right. 667 00:28:39,792 --> 00:28:44,250 Rocket going hot in five, four, 668 00:28:44,375 --> 00:28:46,292 three, two, 669 00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:47,958 one. 670 00:28:50,583 --> 00:28:52,167 Did y'all see that? 671 00:28:53,250 --> 00:28:56,292 It was like it was diverted around the anomaly. 672 00:28:56,458 --> 00:28:58,083 It's gonna land on the mesa. 673 00:29:00,042 --> 00:29:02,083 The rocket should have gone straight up, 674 00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:06,125 but it clearly flew up in this odd S-shaped pattern, 675 00:29:06,333 --> 00:29:08,917 as if something redirected its course. 676 00:29:09,083 --> 00:29:11,583 So, could it have been the blob that did that? 677 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,792 PETE (over walkie): Hey, have we got anybody on the ground 678 00:29:14,958 --> 00:29:17,792 over by where the orb came out of the mesa? 679 00:29:18,792 --> 00:29:20,125 To my knowledge, not. 680 00:29:20,292 --> 00:29:22,000 What are you seeing? 681 00:29:23,042 --> 00:29:26,167 PETE: So I've got something really warm on the ground 682 00:29:26,375 --> 00:29:30,250 near where you told me an orb flew out of the mesa. 683 00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:40,833 TRAVIS (over walkie): What are you seeing? 684 00:29:40,958 --> 00:29:42,750 So I've got something 685 00:29:42,917 --> 00:29:45,042 really warm on the ground 686 00:29:45,208 --> 00:29:47,833 near where you told me an orb flew out of the mesa. 687 00:29:47,958 --> 00:29:49,125 TRAVIS: What? 688 00:29:50,208 --> 00:29:52,500 -On the ground? -PETE: Yeah. 689 00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:54,667 Our lasers and rockets had just detected 690 00:29:54,833 --> 00:29:56,667 something in the 31-foot 691 00:29:56,875 --> 00:29:59,833 blob zone at the triangle when, all of the sudden, 692 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,500 Pete Kelsey noticed that his aerial thermal drone 693 00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:05,000 picked up a strange heat anomaly 694 00:30:05,167 --> 00:30:07,500 several hundred feet to the northeast by the mesa. 695 00:30:07,708 --> 00:30:09,833 And that was right near the spot 696 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,125 where we captured video last year 697 00:30:12,250 --> 00:30:13,833 of a UAP flying out of the mesa 698 00:30:14,042 --> 00:30:15,833 and straight toward the triangle. 699 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,500 Was it there before the launch? 700 00:30:18,708 --> 00:30:21,042 -PETE: Not that I noticed. -Where, where? 701 00:30:21,208 --> 00:30:23,042 Right here. 702 00:30:24,042 --> 00:30:25,583 TRAVIS: What the hell is that? 703 00:30:25,708 --> 00:30:27,500 PETE: That's just weird. 704 00:30:27,708 --> 00:30:30,083 I was just panning around and saw it. 705 00:30:30,292 --> 00:30:32,500 That's almost up at the base of the mesa. 706 00:30:32,625 --> 00:30:34,083 TRAVIS: I'll tell you what, 707 00:30:34,292 --> 00:30:35,792 Dragon, let's jump in the jeep and drive over there. 708 00:30:35,958 --> 00:30:37,500 BRYANT: That's a good idea. 709 00:30:37,708 --> 00:30:39,333 TRAVIS: We had no idea 710 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:40,833 what Pete had just detected, 711 00:30:41,042 --> 00:30:42,875 but since that's where we documented 712 00:30:43,042 --> 00:30:45,500 one of the most shocking events we've ever seen 713 00:30:45,708 --> 00:30:47,292 on Skinwalker Ranch, 714 00:30:47,417 --> 00:30:50,000 which also might be connected to the triangle, 715 00:30:50,208 --> 00:30:51,500 I wanted to get over there with Dragon 716 00:30:51,708 --> 00:30:53,292 to see if we could figure out what it was. 717 00:30:54,375 --> 00:30:56,125 PETE: I got great visual on you, guys. 718 00:30:56,208 --> 00:30:57,875 BRYANT (over walkie): All right, so walk us in. 719 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,167 PETE (over walkie): You're-you're on a good line, 720 00:31:00,333 --> 00:31:02,292 just keep-keep walking that track. 721 00:31:05,958 --> 00:31:08,167 So bear right a little bit. 722 00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:13,667 Bull's-eye. 723 00:31:13,875 --> 00:31:17,833 BRYANT: Yep. It is a big rock. 724 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,792 PETE: That's just weird. 725 00:31:19,958 --> 00:31:22,500 It doesn't look like any other rock around it. 726 00:31:23,542 --> 00:31:26,042 TRAVIS: I mean, I don't know what-what to think of it. 727 00:31:27,042 --> 00:31:28,250 It was definitely strange 728 00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:30,000 that this massive boulder appeared 729 00:31:30,208 --> 00:31:33,958 as a major heat source on Pete Kelsey's thermal device, 730 00:31:34,125 --> 00:31:36,500 because other large rocks right near it 731 00:31:36,708 --> 00:31:40,417 were much darker, or cooler, as we'd normally expect. 732 00:31:40,583 --> 00:31:41,667 (singing) 733 00:31:41,875 --> 00:31:44,958 But back in 2022, 734 00:31:45,125 --> 00:31:47,708 we detected a strange heat anomaly up on top of the mesa. 735 00:31:47,875 --> 00:31:49,167 When they started singing, 736 00:31:49,292 --> 00:31:50,625 the temperature literally changed. 737 00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:51,833 Look how hot it's getting. 738 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,833 And then saw two UAPs 739 00:31:55,042 --> 00:31:58,292 actually fly into the top of it. 740 00:31:59,333 --> 00:32:01,667 There's no geological reason why this rock 741 00:32:01,833 --> 00:32:05,125 would emit heat like that and show up on a thermal scan. 742 00:32:06,292 --> 00:32:08,667 All right, well, it was, it was worth taking a look at. 743 00:32:08,833 --> 00:32:09,833 -We'll head back. -Yep. 744 00:32:10,042 --> 00:32:11,500 Thanks, guys. 745 00:32:11,667 --> 00:32:13,750 TRAVIS: So, it really left us wondering 746 00:32:13,958 --> 00:32:15,708 what it is about this location 747 00:32:15,917 --> 00:32:17,500 that would explain the hot rock, 748 00:32:17,708 --> 00:32:20,542 especially since it's near where we've seen a UAP 749 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:21,833 exit the mesa. 750 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,917 And why did it show up 751 00:32:24,042 --> 00:32:25,958 right after something caused our rocket 752 00:32:26,125 --> 00:32:28,042 to veer off course in the blob zone 753 00:32:28,208 --> 00:32:29,542 at the triangle? 754 00:32:29,708 --> 00:32:32,208 There has to be some kind of connection. 755 00:32:33,208 --> 00:32:35,125 Yep. All right, here we go. 756 00:32:35,292 --> 00:32:37,667 Let's get a rocket ready and let's do it again. 757 00:32:37,792 --> 00:32:41,125 As soon as Dragon and I got back to the triangle, 758 00:32:41,333 --> 00:32:44,167 we wanted to immediately launch the last rocket we had 759 00:32:44,333 --> 00:32:46,833 to see if it would go straight up this time, 760 00:32:46,958 --> 00:32:49,167 like it should, or get diverted again. 761 00:32:49,333 --> 00:32:51,667 If something was above the triangle, 762 00:32:51,833 --> 00:32:55,208 we needed to do whatever we could to figure out what it was. 763 00:32:55,333 --> 00:32:57,583 We're ready, Jim. Are you about ready? 764 00:32:57,708 --> 00:32:58,583 ROYSTON (over walkie): Yeah, I'm getting it in the air right now. 765 00:32:58,792 --> 00:32:59,958 Okay. 766 00:33:06,708 --> 00:33:08,667 Hey, everybody, uh, do you copy? 767 00:33:08,833 --> 00:33:09,792 We are going to, 768 00:33:09,958 --> 00:33:11,250 uh, launch a rocket here. 769 00:33:11,458 --> 00:33:14,375 Uh, so be warned, be advised. 770 00:33:15,417 --> 00:33:17,667 Everybody clear out for the lasers. 771 00:33:17,833 --> 00:33:19,542 TIM: Lasers up, Chris. 772 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:23,250 Lasers up. 773 00:33:23,375 --> 00:33:27,250 TRAVIS: The rocket is going hot. Rocket is hot! 774 00:33:28,167 --> 00:33:29,833 Going in five... 775 00:33:30,042 --> 00:33:32,208 four, three, 776 00:33:32,375 --> 00:33:34,417 two, one. 777 00:33:38,708 --> 00:33:40,792 How did it go over there? 778 00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:45,500 BRYANT: I don't know. There's hardly any wind. 779 00:33:45,708 --> 00:33:48,333 All right, let's go back and, uh, see what they got. 780 00:33:48,458 --> 00:33:49,583 Okay. 781 00:33:49,792 --> 00:33:50,542 TRAVIS: Sure enough, 782 00:33:50,708 --> 00:33:51,833 the rocket veered away 783 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,333 instead of going straight up, 784 00:33:53,542 --> 00:33:55,542 as though something pushed it off course. 785 00:33:55,708 --> 00:33:58,917 Who knows what caused it, but it was really weird that 786 00:33:59,083 --> 00:34:01,500 the same thing happened multiple times. 787 00:34:05,125 --> 00:34:08,458 I don't see anything weird or crazy. 788 00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:11,833 Uh, Pete, are you seeing anything? 789 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,042 Jim, are you seeing anything? 790 00:34:14,208 --> 00:34:15,167 KALEB (over walkie): Nope. 791 00:34:15,333 --> 00:34:17,458 Nothing out of the ordinary. 792 00:34:17,625 --> 00:34:19,792 ROYSTON (over walkie): We just flew on that last rocket launch. 793 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,250 There was nothing in the air. 794 00:34:22,375 --> 00:34:23,333 Okay. 795 00:34:24,875 --> 00:34:26,417 Hey, Erik, do you copy? 796 00:34:28,125 --> 00:34:30,542 Yes, Travis. Go ahead. 797 00:34:30,708 --> 00:34:33,167 TRAVIS (over walkie): You see anything exciting? 798 00:34:33,333 --> 00:34:35,917 ERIK: I didn't see anything jumping out at me. 799 00:34:36,958 --> 00:34:40,167 TRAVIS: We're about to wrap up out here at the tent. 800 00:34:40,375 --> 00:34:41,875 Um, I'll run out and join you guys, 801 00:34:42,042 --> 00:34:43,292 if it's not too much to wait. 802 00:34:43,458 --> 00:34:45,000 No. Come on, man. We'll wait. 803 00:34:45,167 --> 00:34:47,208 It's like that a lot out here. 804 00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:49,333 One minute, we're seeing and detecting 805 00:34:49,542 --> 00:34:51,417 strange things that we can't explain, 806 00:34:51,542 --> 00:34:54,208 and then the next minute, nothing. 807 00:34:54,375 --> 00:34:57,625 Okay, guys, uh, we can bring the lasers down, 808 00:34:57,792 --> 00:35:00,458 and, uh, let's start-- let's shut everything down. 809 00:35:02,042 --> 00:35:03,875 Whatever was in that airspace 810 00:35:04,042 --> 00:35:05,833 seemed to have suddenly just vanished. 811 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,958 Hey, guys. 812 00:35:07,125 --> 00:35:08,042 Just like some of the UAPs 813 00:35:08,167 --> 00:35:09,708 we've recently seen. 814 00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:11,375 Well... 815 00:35:11,583 --> 00:35:13,375 Erik, did you see anything in the cameras? 816 00:35:13,583 --> 00:35:15,292 ERIK: There were so many different views, 817 00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:18,333 um, I-I could've missed anything. 818 00:35:18,458 --> 00:35:19,667 But, uh, 819 00:35:19,875 --> 00:35:21,750 if in fact we got anything like that blob, 820 00:35:21,875 --> 00:35:24,667 we should be able to run some filters on it and find it. 821 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,833 You know, uh, it's really interesting, uh, 822 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,167 at one point, we did pick up 823 00:35:29,375 --> 00:35:32,417 a signal around 1.6 gigahertz pointed at Homestead Two. 824 00:35:32,583 --> 00:35:35,583 I got to tell you, that's been really persistent tonight. 825 00:35:35,708 --> 00:35:36,750 TRAVIS: Yeah. 826 00:35:36,917 --> 00:35:37,917 We got a lot of data, though, 827 00:35:38,125 --> 00:35:39,875 'cause every time we did something, 828 00:35:40,083 --> 00:35:40,958 we had two drones in the air. 829 00:35:41,125 --> 00:35:42,375 One doing thermal, 830 00:35:42,542 --> 00:35:44,500 one doing lidar. 831 00:35:44,708 --> 00:35:46,208 It was a lot to track. 832 00:35:46,375 --> 00:35:49,333 We'll look at the data, and after we absorb 833 00:35:49,458 --> 00:35:51,667 some of that and assimilate the data, 834 00:35:51,875 --> 00:35:53,167 we'll reconvene. 835 00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:55,458 All right, let's start breaking down. 836 00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:05,167 -ERIK: How we doing? -TRAVIS: All right. 837 00:36:05,333 --> 00:36:07,583 We are just about to review 838 00:36:07,708 --> 00:36:10,875 everything that happened during the exercise with Nu-Salt. 839 00:36:11,042 --> 00:36:13,042 In effect, trying to probe the anomaly 840 00:36:13,208 --> 00:36:15,375 directly above the triangle. 841 00:36:15,542 --> 00:36:17,458 THOMAS: That night was so crazy. 842 00:36:17,625 --> 00:36:19,208 BRYANT: That was quite an experiment. 843 00:36:19,375 --> 00:36:21,000 TRAVIS: The day after our multi-laser 844 00:36:21,208 --> 00:36:22,333 rocket experiment at the triangle, 845 00:36:22,458 --> 00:36:24,333 Jim Royston, Pete Kelsey, 846 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:26,500 Erik, and I scoured through our data, 847 00:36:26,708 --> 00:36:30,333 hoping that we would see something at 31 feet in the air 848 00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:32,917 that might explain all the strange things we detected. 849 00:36:33,083 --> 00:36:36,500 But instead, we found something that none of us were expecting. 850 00:36:36,708 --> 00:36:40,917 So, near the tent, you guys remember we had 851 00:36:41,083 --> 00:36:42,500 a couple of cameras locked off 852 00:36:42,708 --> 00:36:44,167 on the Space Cannon beams going up. 853 00:36:44,375 --> 00:36:46,333 -Yep. -And they were set to take 854 00:36:46,542 --> 00:36:48,083 a snapshot every so often, 855 00:36:48,208 --> 00:36:52,083 and we found something that is, uh, really odd. 856 00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:54,292 ERIK: Yeah, odd to say the least. 857 00:36:54,458 --> 00:36:55,750 I can't explain this. 858 00:37:00,125 --> 00:37:02,333 -THOMAS: Whoa. -KALEB: No. 859 00:37:04,625 --> 00:37:08,958 TRAVIS: Yeah, looks like the beam stops and then starts again. 860 00:37:09,125 --> 00:37:12,292 So, if there was something in there blocking the beam, 861 00:37:12,458 --> 00:37:14,458 it wouldn't continue above it. 862 00:37:14,625 --> 00:37:16,458 THOMAS: How could it block out the green and not the blue? 863 00:37:16,625 --> 00:37:18,500 TRAVIS: It doesn't make any sense at all. 864 00:37:18,708 --> 00:37:20,958 I've never seen anything like this ever. 865 00:37:22,417 --> 00:37:24,917 And if you look at the ends of the beams, 866 00:37:25,042 --> 00:37:27,333 the beams look rounded off. 867 00:37:27,542 --> 00:37:29,167 ERIK: Yeah, these do, certainly. 868 00:37:29,375 --> 00:37:31,208 Here and here. 869 00:37:31,417 --> 00:37:34,375 And it appears that this is cutting into 870 00:37:34,542 --> 00:37:37,333 the beam profile on the left-hand side. 871 00:37:37,542 --> 00:37:40,708 What-what could be doing that? 872 00:37:41,917 --> 00:37:46,500 ERIK: I see that the green light on the lasers directed skyward 873 00:37:46,667 --> 00:37:50,292 has been affected by something for which I have no explanation. 874 00:37:50,417 --> 00:37:52,292 I'm not even sure how it is possible 875 00:37:52,458 --> 00:37:54,667 for this beam to be interrupted, 876 00:37:54,875 --> 00:37:57,167 as we see in the image, and then to resume. 877 00:37:57,333 --> 00:37:59,833 This-this makes no sense. 878 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,875 I don't think any of us has a good explanation for it. 879 00:38:03,042 --> 00:38:06,292 And it didn't just happen in one of the images. 880 00:38:06,458 --> 00:38:08,583 -(laughs) Oh, no. -BRYANT: You're kidding me. 881 00:38:08,750 --> 00:38:10,000 THOMAS: What? 882 00:38:10,958 --> 00:38:14,167 ERIK: So, here we see unaffected, blue-ish... 883 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:15,667 TRAVIS: Blue-ish and purple lasers, right. 884 00:38:15,792 --> 00:38:18,250 -And now, look. Look there. -ERIK: Look here. 885 00:38:18,375 --> 00:38:20,125 -Look near the top here. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 886 00:38:20,333 --> 00:38:24,625 Again, just the green, just the green. 887 00:38:24,708 --> 00:38:28,500 ERIK: It's got that hard-edge geometry on it. 888 00:38:28,708 --> 00:38:30,708 I c-- I cannot explain it. I do not understand it, 889 00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:34,625 but there it is, and then, uh, we have another one. 890 00:38:34,792 --> 00:38:36,458 Look here. 891 00:38:38,375 --> 00:38:40,000 THOMAS: Yeah. 892 00:38:40,208 --> 00:38:42,375 So, you see, we had this in three different 893 00:38:42,583 --> 00:38:44,667 long-exposure photographs. 894 00:38:44,833 --> 00:38:47,042 And they're all at about 100 feet off the ground. 895 00:38:47,208 --> 00:38:49,375 TRAVIS: And, if we're running around doing so much stuff, 896 00:38:49,542 --> 00:38:52,042 we may not ever looked at the right time and saw this. 897 00:38:52,208 --> 00:38:54,208 Yeah. 898 00:38:54,417 --> 00:38:56,625 TRAVIS: The fact that we captured three different images 899 00:38:56,750 --> 00:38:59,833 of gaps in only the green laser beam 900 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,333 showed that this wasn't a camera error. 901 00:39:02,542 --> 00:39:05,333 Something created three different voids 902 00:39:05,458 --> 00:39:07,500 in just the green laser beams 903 00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:10,667 at a height of about 100 feet above the triangle. 904 00:39:10,833 --> 00:39:13,250 I guess the question is, what is it that causes 905 00:39:13,375 --> 00:39:15,000 this thing to show up? 906 00:39:15,167 --> 00:39:17,708 Yes. I was just thinking, "Can I make it happen again?" 907 00:39:17,917 --> 00:39:20,292 TRAVIS: How were you thinking you'd make it happen again? 908 00:39:20,458 --> 00:39:21,958 ERIK: Well, I was just thinking of really bright 909 00:39:22,125 --> 00:39:24,167 infrared illumination, you know, that I can control. 910 00:39:24,375 --> 00:39:27,208 TRAVIS: Maybe we shine one laser with the lidar? 911 00:39:27,375 --> 00:39:29,208 -ERIK: Yes. -We should also launch a rocket 912 00:39:29,375 --> 00:39:30,500 through it while we're doing the lidar. 913 00:39:30,667 --> 00:39:32,167 ERIK: Absolutely. 914 00:39:32,333 --> 00:39:34,167 I want to understand what just happened here. 915 00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:36,000 TRAVIS: We don't know if the voids 916 00:39:36,208 --> 00:39:39,208 in the green laser were related to the UAP that we saw, 917 00:39:39,417 --> 00:39:42,208 or what caused our rockets to veer off course. 918 00:39:42,417 --> 00:39:44,292 But the experiment was a success. 919 00:39:44,458 --> 00:39:46,333 We now have a specific spot 920 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,583 to focus on for more experiments 921 00:39:48,750 --> 00:39:50,625 that will hopefully lead to some answers. 922 00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:52,500 I love the idea of trying to see 923 00:39:52,667 --> 00:39:54,333 if there's anything that can stimulate to see it again. 924 00:39:54,417 --> 00:39:56,333 -Yup. Yup. -Yup. Yup. 925 00:39:56,458 --> 00:39:58,667 I guess we need to invite these guys back 926 00:39:58,875 --> 00:40:00,750 -and bring those lasers back here. -ERIK: Absolutely. 927 00:40:00,917 --> 00:40:04,500 Absolutely. I want to understand what just happened here. 928 00:40:04,667 --> 00:40:07,083 -I did not expect to see that. -Right. 929 00:40:07,208 --> 00:40:10,000 -ERIK: Okay. Thanks, guys. -THOMAS: Thank you. 930 00:40:11,375 --> 00:40:13,667 ERIK: We've seen so many unusual things 931 00:40:13,875 --> 00:40:15,875 happen here above the triangle. 932 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,833 It raises the question as to what could be operating there? 933 00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:20,542 What could be present in that space? 934 00:40:20,708 --> 00:40:23,500 Could it be related to something 935 00:40:23,667 --> 00:40:27,083 in the UFO or UAP domain? 936 00:40:28,417 --> 00:40:31,750 We can't dismiss it, and that's tantalizing. 937 00:40:33,875 --> 00:40:36,333 TRAVIS: We don't know yet how all the crazy phenomena 938 00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:38,500 we keep seeing and detecting out here 939 00:40:38,708 --> 00:40:41,042 at Skinwalker Ranch might be related to one another, 940 00:40:41,208 --> 00:40:44,500 but after what happened during this past experiment, 941 00:40:44,667 --> 00:40:47,333 I think we have a lot more evidence to suggest 942 00:40:47,542 --> 00:40:49,417 that the triangle and the mesa could be 943 00:40:49,625 --> 00:40:51,167 the keys to figuring it out. 944 00:40:52,333 --> 00:40:56,125 BRANDON: The world's attention has been drawn to Skinwalker Ranch. 945 00:40:56,292 --> 00:40:59,333 The mesa and the triangle 946 00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:04,458 have proven to be key centers of gravity for high strangeness. 947 00:41:04,583 --> 00:41:07,625 Utilizing a vast array of equipment, 948 00:41:07,708 --> 00:41:11,000 we've documented the most compelling evidence 949 00:41:11,208 --> 00:41:15,000 that there is something very strange at play. 950 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,833 With so many crazy events occurring, 951 00:41:19,042 --> 00:41:20,625 more than ever before, 952 00:41:20,792 --> 00:41:23,375 we'll be focusing efforts to get some answers, 953 00:41:23,542 --> 00:41:25,792 to better document 954 00:41:25,917 --> 00:41:28,042 the nature of what we are interacting with 955 00:41:28,208 --> 00:41:30,500 here at Skinwalker Ranch.